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1、精选优质文档-倾情为你奉上Transcript of the Oct. 22, 2012, presidential debate between President Barack Obama and Republican nominee Mitt Romney at Lynn University in Boca Raton, Fla., as prepared by the Commission on Presidential Debates with permission to re-publish. This will be updated.PRESIDENT BARACK OBAMA

2、 AND FORMER GOV. MITT ROMNEY,R-MASS., PARTICIPATE IN A CANDIDATES DEBATE, LYNNUNIVERSITY, BOCA RATON, FLORIDAOCTOBER 22, 2012SPEAKERS: FORMER GOV. MITT ROMNEY, R-MASS.,PRESIDENT BARACK OBAMABOB SCHIEFFER, MODERATOR*SCHIEFFER: Good evening from the campus of Lynn University here in Boca Raton, Florid

3、a. This is the fourth and last debate of the 2012 campaign, brought to you by the Commission on Presidential Debates.This ones on foreign policy. Im Bob Schieffer of CBS News. The questions are mine, and I have not shared them with the candidates or their aides.SCHIEFFER: The audience has taken a vo

4、w of silence no applause, no reaction of any kind, except right now when we welcome President Barack Obama and Governor Mitt Romney.(APPLAUSE)Gentlemen, your campaigns have agreed to certain rules and they are simple. Theyve asked me to divide the evening into segments. Ill pose a question at the be

5、ginning of each segment. You will each have two minutes to respond and then we will have a general discussion until we move to the next segment.Tonights debate, as both of you know, comes on the 50th anniversary of the night that President Kennedy told the world that the Soviet Union had installed n

6、uclear missiles in Cuba, perhaps the closest weve ever come to nuclear war. And it is a sobering reminder that every president faces at some point an unexpected threat to our national security from abroad.So lets begin.SCHIEFFER: The first segment is the challenge of a changing Middle East and the n

7、ew face of terrorism. Im going to put this into two segments so youll have two topic questions within this one segment on the subject. The first question, and it concerns Libya. The controversy over what happened there continues. Four Americans are dead, including an American ambassador. Questions r

8、emain. What happened? What caused it? Was it spontaneous? Was it an intelligence failure? Was it a policy failure? Was there an attempt to mislead people about what really happened?Governor Romney, you said this was an example of an American policy in the Middle East that is unraveling before our ve

9、ry eyes.SCHIEFFER: Id like to hear each of you give your thoughts on that.Governor Romney, you won the toss. You go first.ROMNEY: Thank you, Bob. And thank you for agreeing to moderate this debate this evening. Thank you to Lynn University for welcoming us here. And Mr. President, its good to be wit

10、h you again. We were together at a humorous event a little earlier, and its nice to maybe funny this time, not on purpose. Well see what happens.This is obviously an area of great concern to the entire world, and to America in particular, which is to see a a complete change in the the structure and

11、the the environment in the Middle East.With the Arab Spring, came a great deal of hope that there would be a change towards more moderation, and opportunity for greater participation on the part of women in public life, and in economic life in the Middle East. But instead, weve seen in nation after

12、nation, a number of disturbing events. Of course we see in Syria, 30,000 civilians having been killed by the military there. We see in in Libya, an attack apparently by, I think we know now, by terrorists of some kind against against our people there, four people dead.Our hearts and and minds go out

13、 to them. Mali has been taken over, the northern part of Mali by al-Qaeda type individuals. We have in in Egypt, a Muslim Brotherhood president. And so what were seeing is a pretty dramatic reversal in the kind of hopes we had for that region. Of course the greatest threat of all is Iran, four years

14、 closer to a nuclear weapon. And and were going to have to recognize that we have to do as the president has done. I congratulate him on on taking out Osama bin Laden and going after the leadership in al-Qaeda.But we cant kill our way out of this mess. Were going to have to put in place a very compr

15、ehensive and robust strategy to help the the world of Islam and other parts of the world, reject this radical violent extremism, which is its certainly not on the run.ROMNEY: Its certainly not hiding. This is a group that is now involved in 10 or 12 countries, and it presents an enormous threat to o

16、ur friends, to the world, to America, long term, and we must have a comprehensive strategy to help reject this kind of extremism.SCHIEFFER: Mr. President?OBAMA: Well, my first job as commander in chief, Bob, is to keep the American people safe. And thats what weve done over the last four years.We en

17、ded the war in Iraq, refocused our attention on those who actually killed us on 9/11. And as a consequence, Al Qaedas core leadership has been decimated.In addition, were now able to transition out of Afghanistan in a responsible way, making sure that Afghans take responsibility for their own securi

18、ty. And that allows us also to rebuild alliances and make friends around the world to combat future threats. Now with respect to Libya, as I indicated in the last debate, when we received that phone call, I immediately made sure that, number one, that we did everything we could to secure those Ameri

19、cans who were still in harms way; number two, that we would investigate exactly what happened, and number three, most importantly, that we would go after those who killed Americans and we would bring them to justice. And thats exactly what were going to do.But I think its important to step back and

20、think about what happened in Libya. Keep in mind that I and Americans took leadership in organizing an international coalition that made sure that we were able to, without putting troops on the ground at the cost of less than what we spent in two weeks in Iraq, liberate a country that had been under

21、 the yoke of dictatorship for 40 years. Got rid of a despot who had killed Americans and as a consequence, despite this tragedy, you had tens of thousands of Libyans after the events in Benghazi marching and saying America is our friend. We stand with them.OBAMA: Now that represents the opportunity

22、we have to take advantage of. And, you know, Governor Romney, Im glad that you agree that we have been successful in going after Al Qaida, but I have to tell you that, you know, your strategy previously has been one that has been all over the map and is not designed to keep Americans safe or to buil

23、d on the opportunities that exist in the Middle East.ROMNEY: Well, my strategy is pretty straightforward, which is to go after the bad guys, to make sure we do our very best to interrupt them, to to kill them, to take them out of the picture.But my strategy is broader than that. Thats thats importan

24、t, of course. But the key that were going to have to pursue is a is a pathway to get the Muslim world to be able to reject extremism on its own.We dont want another Iraq, we dont want another Afghanistan. Thats not the right course for us. The right course for us is to make sure that we go after the

25、 the people who are leaders of these various anti-American groups and these these jihadists, but also help the Muslim world.And how do we do that? A group of Arab scholars came together, organized by the U.N., to look at how we can help the the world reject these these terrorists. And the answer the

26、y came up with was this:One, more economic development. We should key our foreign aid, our direct foreign investment, and that of our friends, we should coordinate it to make sure that we we push back and give them more economic development.Number two, better education.Number three, gender equality.

27、Number four, the rule of law. We have to help these nations create civil societies.But whats been happening over the last couple of years is, as weve watched this tumult in the Middle East, this rising tide of chaos occur, you see Al Qaida rushing in, you see other jihadist groups rushing in. And an

28、d theyre throughout many nations in the Middle East.ROMNEY: Its wonderful that Libya seems to be making some progress, despite this terrible tragedy.But next door, of course, we have Egypt. Libyas 6 million population; Egypt, 80 million population. We want we want to make sure that were seeing progr

29、ess throughout the Middle East. With Mali now having North Mali taken over by Al Qaida; with Syria having Assad continuing to to kill, to murder his own people, this is a region in tumult.And, of course, Iran on the path to a nuclear weapon, weve got real (inaudible).SCHIEFFER: Well get to that, but

30、 lets give the president a chance.OBAMA: Governor Romney, Im glad that you recognize that Al Qaida is a threat, because a few months ago when you were asked whats the biggest geopolitical threat facing America, you said Russia, not Al Qaida; you said Russia, in the 1980s, theyre now calling to ask f

31、or their foreign policy back because, you know, the Cold Wars been over for 20 years.But Governor, when it comes to our foreign policy, you seem to want to import the foreign policies of the 1980s, just like the social policies of the 1950s and the economic policies of the 1920s.You say that youre n

32、ot interested in duplicating what happened in Iraq. But just a few weeks ago, you said you think we should have more troops in Iraq right now. And the the challenge we have I know you havent been in a position to actually execute foreign policy but every time youve offered an opinion, youve been wro

33、ng. You said we should have gone into Iraq, despite that fact that there were no weapons of mass destruction.You said that we should still have troops in Iraq to this day. You indicated that we shouldnt be passing nuclear treaties with Russia despite the fact that 71 senators, Democrats and Republic

34、ans, voted for it. You said that, first, we should not have a timeline in Afghanistan. Then you said we should. Now you say maybe or it depends, which means not only were you wrong, but you were also confusing in sending mixed messages both to our troops and our allies.OBAMA: So, what what we need t

35、o do with respect to the Middle East is strong, steady leadership, not wrong and reckless leadership that is all over the map. And unfortunately, thats the kind of opinions that youve offered throughout this campaign, and it is not a recipe for American strength, or keeping America safe over the lon

36、g haul.SCHIEFFER: Im going to add a couple of minutes here to give you a chance to respond.ROMNEY: Well, of course I dont concur with what the president said about my own record and the things that Ive said. They dont happen to be accurate. But but I can say this, that were talking about the Middle

37、East and how to help the Middle East reject the kind of terrorism were seeing, and the rising tide of tumult and and confusion. And and attacking me is not an agenda. Attacking me is not talking about how were going to deal with the challenges that exist in the Middle East, and take advantage of the

38、 opportunity there, and stem the tide of this violence.But Ill respond to a couple of things that you mentioned. First of all, Russia I indicated is a geopolitical foe. Not.(CROSSTALK)ROMNEY: Excuse me. Its a geopolitical foe, and I said in the same in the same paragraph I said, and Iran is the grea

39、test national security threat we face. Russia does continue to battle us in the U.N. time and time again. I have clear eyes on this. Im not going to wear rose-colored glasses when it comes to Russia, or Mr. Putin. And Im certainly not going to say to him, Ill give you more flexibility after the elec

40、tion. After the election, hell get more backbone. Number two, with regards to Iraq, you and I agreed I believe that there should be a status of forces agreement.(CROSSTALK)ROMNEY: Oh you didnt? You didnt want a status of.OBAMA: What I would not have had done was left 10,000 troops in Iraq that would

41、 tie us down. And that certainly would not help us in the Middle East.ROMNEY: Im sorry, you actually there was a there was an effort on the part of the president to have a status of forces agreement, and I concurred in that, and said that we should have some number of troops that stayed on. That was

42、 something I concurred with.(CROSSTALK)OBAMA: Governor.(CROSSTALK)ROMNEY: .that your posture. That was my posture as well. You thought it should have been 5,000 troops.(CROSSTALK)OBAMA: Governor?ROMNEY: . I thought there should have been more troops, but you know what? The answer was we got.(CROSSTA

43、LK)ROMNEY: . no troops through whatsoever.OBAMA: This was just a few weeks ago that you indicated that we should still have troops in Iraq.ROMNEY: No, I.(CROSSTALK)ROMNEY: .Im sorry thats a.(CROSSTALK)OBAMA: You you.ROMNEY: .thats a I indicated.(CROSSTALK)OBAMA: .major speech.(CROSSTALK)ROMNEY: .I i

44、ndicated that you failed to put in place a status.(CROSSTALK)OBAMA: Governor?(CROSSTALK)ROMNEY: .of forces agreement at the end of the conflict that existed.OBAMA: Governor here heres heres one thing.(CROSSTALK)OBAMA: .heres one thing Ive learned as commander in chief.(CROSSTALK)SCHIEFFER: Let him a

45、nswer.OBAMA: Youve got to be clear, both to our allies and our enemies, about where you stand and what you mean. You just gave a speech a few weeks ago in which you said we should still have troops in Iraq. That is not a recipe for making sure that we are taking advantage of the opportunities and me

46、eting the challenges of the Middle East.Now, it is absolutely true that we cannot just meet these challenges militarily. And so what Ive done throughout my presidency and will continue to do is, number one, make sure that these countries are supporting our counterterrorism efforts.Number two, make s

47、ure that they are standing by our interests in Israels security, because it is a true friend and our greatest ally in the region.Number three, we do have to make sure that were protecting religious minorities and women because these countries cant develop unless all the population, not just half of

48、it, is developing.Number four, we do have to develop their economic their economic capabilities.But number five, the other thing that we have to do is recognize that we cant continue to do nation building in these regions. Part of American leadership is making sure that were doing nation building here at home. That will help us maintain the kind of American leadership that we need.SCHIEFFER: Let me interject the second topic question in this segment about the Middle East and so on, and that is,