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1、当你在做建筑的时候When youre doing architecture, 你总是在表现着你以前的精神或梦想youre always channeling a spirit or a dream that you have from the past.在采石场走来走去就好像置身另一个星球那样Walking around in the quarries, its as if you were in another planet.感觉就似在火星上You feel like youre in Mars.我认为火山石就好像地球的血液I think that volcanic rock is lik

2、e the blood of Earth.当你看到火山，看到火山爆发When you see a volcano, you see that eruption.那是超鲜红色，几乎橙色的Its super bright red, almost orange.你看到在你下方有一些更大更活生生的东西And you see that theres something much bigger alive beneath you.我真的感觉到 与地球心脏和地球本质的连系I really feel a connection with the heart of the planet, with the ess

3、ence of it. 墨西哥的地区有那么多的文化元素不好好利用就太可惜了Theres too much heritage in the Mexican territory not to use it.我们的家充满石头和其他本地建筑物料Our house is full of so much stone and other local materials,我无法自拔地对它们着迷I could not help to be obsessed with it.火山石有很多可塑性和力量Volcanic rock has so much plasticity and so much power.你可以

4、全部都拥有You can have it all.有些看起来科幻又有些看起来是本地风格Something that looks sci-fi with something that looks vernacular.实在有无限的可能性The possibilities are endless.超创意新居卡拉和柏度，他们在墨西哥城外♥围♥Carla and Pedro, they have this huge, 拥有一幢巨型由水泥造的粗野主义建筑物cement Brutalist building, in the outskirts of Mexico City.它是

5、如火山石般的传统建筑材料Its a mix between this very traditional material, as volcanic rock,和如水泥般的现代材料的合体我们跟来自12个不同的州分超过180个遍布墨西哥的工匠合作We collaborate with 12 different states, more than 180 artisans around Mexico, 你能看到那些布料或是绣花and you can see those fabrics or those embroideries or those collaborations 或是房♥子

6、周边细节上的合作around the house in tiny details.我利用传统的连衣裙I use traditional huipiles；然后我从全球各地收集传统民俗服饰and I collect traditional folk clothing from all around the world.家里我也有一系列的墨西哥地毯I also have a collection of carpets from Mexico around the house.我把它们放在梳化上或是我委托他们去做I put them on top of the sofas, or I commiss

7、ion them.我的羽绒被是跟恰帕斯州恰那洛的纺织者合作所做成My duvet, it was made in collaboration with weavers in Chenalho in Chiapas.他们有这些很美丽的线They have these amazing lines去隐藏裹身裙的接缝of how they hide the seams of their wraparound skirts.被子上也有同样美丽的刺绣，我很喜欢We made the same beautiful embroidery on top of the duvet, which I love.所以

8、对我来说，我的家非常重要Thats why, for me, my house is so important.因为这是一个手造的房♥子而这样很花时间Because its a house that is handmade, and it takes time,而它一直and its always, you know,反映着那种集体性的用心，还有手艺reflecting the heart and hands of that collectivity.那间屋好正That home is amazing.我认为它的设计很有惊喜And I think the design is ve

9、ry surprising.它的正面不让你知道里面会有什么The fa9ade does not really let you see what you will find inside.而且它是非常个人的这是为了一个美丽家庭而建的家Its very personal too, you know. It*s a house made for a beautiful family你可以看到他们全部这是个艺术家家庭That you can see all of them are- Its an artist family.儿女是我生命中的喜乐Having kids is like my joy i

10、n life.但当莱玛和基斯杜宝不在But when Laima and Cristobal are not around,我们会举♥行♥可能持续整个周末的大型派对we throw out these big parties that may last a whole weekend.所以我们有孩子是好事So its good that we have kids因为不然我们就会醉醺醺because otherwise, wed be totally wasted.不要No.就好像你以为是父母把结构加诸在孩子的生活中Its like, you think that p

11、arents give structure to the kids, 但其实是相反but its a way around.好像是孩子把结构加到父母身上Like, kids give parents some structure.他说：“我跟你说，你就别吓倒了Hes like, I told you just dont freak out.1他说我只需要三天”He said, I only need three days.然后某个时候，我想诱惑卡拉And then, at some point, I wanted to seduce Carla.我们以前常常去玩And we used to.

12、party a lot.对Yeah.我们在1990年代的时候会去地下艺术圈的活动And we used to go to the underground art scene in the 90s,当时正值一个辉煌时代which is a legendary phase,那时候人们会做一些激进和奇怪的东西where people were doing very radical and weird acts.那是来自艺术空间艺术家的一个重要运动There was very important movement of artists from spaces.我当时自己的地方叫风之塔”I had my

13、 own space called La Torre de los Vientos；我擅自占用这个在公路中♥央♥where I squatted in this abandoned sculpture本身是水泥塔的荒废雕塑in the middle of the highway that was a concrete tower我把它当作我的实验室that I started to use as a laboratory,然后当作自己的工作室，邀请艺术家来and invite artists and use it as my studio.我所有朋友都在做自己的艺术

14、 举♥行♥自己的活动，也有自己的空间All my friends were producing our own art and our own events and spaces但是跟来自世界各地最出色的but with the best of the best of young underground artists年轻地下艺术家一起去做from all around the world.对我来说，那算是我的教育That, for me, was kind of my education.而且那个环境给了我通往艺术世界的锁匙And also, that gave

15、me kind of the keys to the art world.我们也是那个圈子的一分子，但是We were part of that scene, but-卡拉是就是Carla was, you know我当时跟其他人拍拖I was dating someone else.对，所以Yeah. So.毛利慈不是-Maurizi. - No.-那个奥林匹克佬不是-The Olympic, guy you were- - No.奥林匹克佬？The Olympic guy?那是谁？不是，那是之前的事Who was that one? No, that was before.柏度，我们几多年

16、前认识？我当时19岁We met how long ago, Pedro? I was 19.我们两个都是19岁We were 19, both of us.对，我们很久之前就认识之后才在大学拍拖Yeah, I mean we met long before we dated, in college.在大学In college.那么卡拉穿着一条紫色用假皮毛做的裤子So, Carla was wearing some purple pants made of fake fur.很难留意不到她，你们懂吗？就好像And it was hard not to notice it, you know?

17、It was like我记得柏度总是说I remember Pedro always, you know,“我喜欢你的裤子，我就说:“谢谢”was like JOh, I love your pants. I was like, Thank you.“我喜欢你的墨西哥拖鞋”我又说：“谢谢你”Oh, I love your huaraches.n And I was like, “Oh, thank you very much. 那么他总会来称赞我So he will always come and compliment me.我当然是在追求她I was after her, definitel

18、y,但她对认真拍拖没兴趣but she had no interest in a serious relationship or anything.但我相信总会有本书能告诉你怎样做But I believe that theres always a book that will tell you how to do something. 所以我看了一本书，里面说你要找So I read the book that said that you had to find一个藉口让你们可以经常见面an excuse to meet on a regular basis.所以我邀请她合作So I inv

19、ited her to do a collaboration,那样我就可以常常跟她一起so I could hang out with her.我们从那时开始合作，之后成为了一对We made a collaboration, and from that on, we became a couple.现在有两个很优秀的孩子、三只狗And now we have two amazing kids, three dogs,还共同拥有一个家and a home together.我跟柏度一同读大学I went to university with Pedro.他读建筑，但他从来没做过建筑师He wa

20、s studying architecture, but he was never an architect.他很早就决定要做艺术家Very early on, he decided he wanted to be an artist.所以当我看到他们的家，我觉得真的很正So when I saw their house, I thought it was really amazing.这是一间由一对夫妇的对话 还有两个人的兴趣Its a house designed by a dialogue of a couple所设计出来的房♥子因为他们要回归到手工制♥作&h

21、earts;and by the interests of two people cause they1 re going back to the handmade.即使房♥子是由柏度设计Even though its designed by Pedro, 房♥子中却能找到他们两个的兴趣you could see both of their interests living there.这间屋参考了很多墨西哥的文化The house has many Mexican references.四处都可以看到传统纺织You see traditional textiles

22、 all over,但也常常看到柏度的作品but also you see Pedros hands all the time.因为这间屋不止是建筑物，也是一个雕塑because that house is not only a building, but its a sculpture.它是一个活生生的雕塑And its a living sculpture.我们称自己这个风格做未来野人We have a kind of style that we call future caveman.它就好像古代和现代的混合Its like this, kind of, mix of ancient a

23、nd modern.而粗野主义也有这样的特色And this is something that Brutalism has.粗野主义是代表粗暴和巨大The term Brutalism means rough and mighty, 但也有点蠢，就好像一种蛮力but a little bit stupid too, you know- Its like a brute force.我喜欢那种粗糙和摸起来不舒服的水泥I love the kind of concrete that is very rough and not very nice to the touch. 不完美的东西Not p

24、erfection.所有我喜欢和欣赏的东西我们都带回家中Everything that I love and everything that I admire, we bring it home. 我视之为缩影I see it as a microcosm.里面有粗野主义的那种粗暴元素Theres elements of Brutalism that is about the roughness, 也有粗野主义中水泥在工程上潜力的元素and elements of Brutalism that is about the engineering potential of cement. 例如这间

25、屋有圆形这个重复的主题An example is theres a kind of a recurring theme of circles.天窗或窗户都是圆形的Skylights or windows that are circular.门是药丸型的Doors that are a pill shape.比拟像椭圆形的旋转型楼梯A spiral staircase where the spiral is more like an ellipse.而这是参考工业建筑And this is a reference to industrial architecture.机械的元素Elements

26、of the machine.表现出源自飞机和船的灵感Echoes of airplanes or from boats that were channeling.创造不同而戏剧性的时刻Creating different very dramatic moments.有时候没有最美的景观 但在合适的地方有一个窗子Sometimes you dont have the best view, but having a window in the right place 帮助你非常确切地建构helps you to frame the little landscape that we have ar

27、ound我们周围的小景观in a very precise way.而它们就好像这间屋的眼睛一样And they are the eyes of the house.你穿着霍格华兹的毛衣You are wearing the Hogwarts* sweater.这是我们家里最靓的毛衣Its the nicest sweater that we have in the house.你穿着爱探险的Dora中的斗篷You are wearing the poncho from Dora the Explorer., 一是一样的爰探险的Dora) ?-It*s the same! - Dora the

28、 Explorer?很好Good!你进步了很多Youve improved a lot.那个很不错That one is very nice.我的空间一直都是未完成My space is always a work in progress,我大局部时间都在那里and I spend most of my time in there.我的家人称它为mi covachaMy family calls it mi covacha.意思就是“我的洞穴，因为我从不出来That is like my caveH because, I never come out of it.我喜欢机械人学 因为你可以了解

29、，还有制♥造♥自己的东西I love robotics because you get to understand and make your own things. 你可以把自己的想法创造出来You can create your own ideas.你可以做一个原型，甚至最终版本You get to do a prototype and even a final version, 然后你也会得到自己完成一切的满足感and then you get also the satisfaction of doing it yourself.看到孩子Its interes

30、ting to see对抗着任何你想他们做的事，实在很有趣how kids rebel against whatever you want to do with them.我少年时想当艺术家As a teenager, I wanted to be an artist, 但我在工程师家庭中成长but I grew up in a family of engineers.这是很奇怪因为基斯杜宝更有工程师的精神Its curious because Cristobal, he has more of an engineering spirit.他对编写程式和金融的东西有兴趣You know, li

31、ke, hes into coding and financial things也喜欢机械人学和自己创造东西and robotics and coming up with an invention.但他现在说想读哲学But he says now that he wants to study philosophy, 所以谁知道呢？so who knows?如果我们做个有点像这样的小雕像What if we did a figurine that was something like this也许做成你看到那样的两局部那又怎么样？perhaps in two parts, as you see?

32、我爸是My dad is.我们有不同的风格We have different styles,但我认为我们找到方法把大家的想法连接起来but I think weve found a way to connect both of those things.我有点反对立体打印机I was kind of against 3D printers.他看不到立体打印的潜力He didnt see much potential以为它只能制♥造♥小玩具之类的东西apart from doing little toys and stuff.而基斯杜宝给我看And Cristobal

33、, he showed me that他现在能够帮我做我的雕塑模型he could now help me do these models of my sculpture.你一做好那个轮廓Once you have the silhouette我们再一起看吧wefll look it over together.好Okay.我现在给他看一个雕塑I now show him a sculpture然后请他做个模型and then ask him to do a model.这改变了我对立体打印的想法That changed my mind about 3D printing因为我学习到很多原来非

34、常有用的技术元素because I learned a lot of technical elements that came to be very useful.这些模型真的很型The models are really cool因为我可以用我的立体打印机来玩 也可以用来实验一下because I get to play with my 3D printer and also experiment a little.制&hearts作♥这些模型非常重要The use of models is very important它们让你可以认真思考在现实世界有什么效果to submer

35、ge yourself into what will happen in real life.对我来说，雕塑基本上是改变事情的形状For me, sculpture is basically changing the shape of things.它不只是设计Its much more than design.雕塑是了解形态Sculpture is about understanding form,还有你怎样给予你周围的材料一种形态and how do you give form to the materials that are around you.很多时候，我觉得雕塑就是建筑And i

36、n a lot of ways, I think that sculpture is architecture.墨西哥建筑历史上有些很重要的东西Theres something crucial about the history of Mexican architecture就是大局部最重要的突破where most of the most important breakthroughs都是对抗现代性were rebelling against modernity.胡安奥高曼明白到Juan OGorman, he realized that进步这个想法当中有些东西是不对的there was s

37、omething that was wrong about the idea of progress因为现代建筑带来所有生态上的影响because all the kind of ecological consequences of modern architecture.所以他决定回到洞穴So he decided to go back to the cave.（胡安奥高曼的洞穴屋）他在熔岩中发现了一个空间而他在这个小洞穴里建了这间屋He found a bubble inside the lava and he built a house inside this grotto. 它正正就是

38、It was precisely about, like, 那种原始的建筑体验having this kind of primitive experience of architecture.对我来说，那是一个很重要的启发For me, this was, like, a very important inspiration因为那就是地域建筑because its about regional architecture.地域建筑就是利用你本地的材料Regional architecture is about using your local materials, 而在科约阿坎区很容易找到火山石

39、and volcanic rock is readily available here in Coyoacan.你不想你的房♥子跟任何地方的房♥子都一样You don*t want your house to be the same as everywhere else.在屋里，我们利用火山石做墙、做地基In the house, we*ve been using it for walls, for foundations, 做家私，就好似我现在坐着的椅子to do furniture, like the chair Im sitting on, 做地板to do,

40、 floor,利用火山石作为骨料 跟水泥混合以制♥造♥出不同的质感 as an aggregate to mix with the concrete creating different texture.我们的浴室里我们有个浴缸本来是一块巨石In our bathroom, we have a bath that is, like, a huge boulder 然后我们雕琢过它，让它成为一个浴缸that was carved in order to make a bathtub.而这是穴居人的方法Its troglodyte approach.而这是一种扣减式的设

41、计Troglodyte is a design that happens by subtraction.也就是雕刻家做的事情And this is what sculptors do.你在巨石内把那个形状雕刻出来You carve out the shape that is inside that boulder.而正正因为它十分多孔And also, precisely because how porous it is,它是用作研磨粟米、香料或可可的天然材质its a natural material for grinding corn or spices or cacao.它非常适合制&h

42、earts;造♥砂浆或墨西哥研磨钵的物料Its like a perfect material to do a mortar or the molcajete.研磨钵是每个传统墨西哥家庭厨房♥里A molcajete is one of the main objects其中一个主要的用具in the kitchen of every traditional Mexican family.你可以得到祖母的研磨钵You can get your grandmas molcajete,而那是十分荣幸的事情因为它有所有的味道which is an honor because

43、 it has all the flavor.你会记得你祖母或妈妈在这里弄酱料You can remember your grandma making sauces there or your mother. 你把它放到桌中♥央♥You put it in the center of the table,你就能感受到有人在做莎莎酱and you can feel the work of someone making the salsa,还有研磨钵本身的新鲜感和美态and the freshness and the beauty of the molcajete it

44、self.大局部家庭都有一个Most families just own one.他们用它来做牛油果酱、莎莎酱They use it to make guacamole, salsa, like-很明显比搅拌机难用，因为这是全人手的Obviously more difficult than a blender because its all by hand,但味道确实会不同but the taste does change.我喜欢吃辣I love spicy things.我有时吃得太多，感觉味蕾也在着火I eat so much spicy things that, my taste bud

45、s burn.莱玛对于形态、味道with modern materials, as cement,尝试让不同年代的材料合作trying to get dialogues between these different periods.我认为建屋有一局部就是这样And I think thats part of building a home.艺术和设计本身需要了解它们的背景The art has to be, and the design has to be aware of their context.（艺术设计策展人，安娜艾莲娜马♥勒♥）所以我认为他们成功优雅地

46、做到这一点So I think they have managed to do that really gracefully.来吧，多比Come on, Dobby.我认为这东西的正面很有趣I think that this facade is very interesting.为什么？你喜欢它残残旧旧那样？Why? You like that its decaying?不是，我认为那些曲线很精心制♥作♥No, I think that the curves are well crafted.对Yeah.这非常有巴拉冈风格Its very. like Barraga

47、n*s style.我对这些屋都很好奇Im very curious about all of these houses.给我Give it to me.（墨西哥城，科约阿坎区）我们的家在科约阿坎区Our home is located in Coyoacan.（奥夫雷贡）Coyoacan is a very particular neighborhood outside of Mexico City, 科约阿坎区是墨西哥城外一个很特别的社区特别是因为这是芙烈达卡萝和迪亚高里维拉的社区especially because it is the neighborhood of Frida Kahlo and Diego Rivera.（屋主，卡拉费南迪斯）在这里生活好正Its an amazing place to live（墨西哥）因为我喜欢民间艺术和民间节日because I love folk art and I love folk festivities.当我搬到科约阿坎区时Laima is someone whos very creative还有颜色和感官方面都很有创意with form and flavor and color and the senses.我认为她的审美眼光不错Think that she has a very good eye for beauty.